Who is forming you—and what kind of reality is that formation creating?
An interview with Dele Okuwobi
In this week’s conversation, Lindsey sits down with Dele Okuwobi to explore discipleship not as information transfer, but as embodied formation.
Together, they explore how we often believe we have a full version of discipleship when in reality it’s incomplete. We’ve learned to accumulate knowledge, but we struggle to embody it, especially when it comes to justice, love, and the everyday practice of following Jesus in complex cultural moments.
Dele’s primary question is, “Who is your teacher?” This isn’t just about who you listen to, but who is actually forming your consciousness, your instincts, and your way of relating to others.
He encourages to:
Evaluate our teachers
Evaluate our commitment to their teaching
Evaluate where (and whether) we’re embodying it
And finally, weigh it all against the law of love
If you’re wrestling with formation, embodiment, or the gap between what we believe and how we live, this conversation is worth your time.

